Monday, December 30, 2013

Yeshua(Jesus) the messiah was a man not God.

Ever since I have become a believer and a follower of  messiah I have been taught about the basics of Christianity, God is one but in three different persons; the father, the son and the holy spirit, I also learned that when Yeshua(Jesus) was on earth he was both man and God and you must believe unto the messiah to be saved.
I always had questions but not all of my questions could be answered, I would usually get the "its a mystery" reply and just move on.
The question is why is there such a huge gap between the Jews that do not believe in the Christian messiah between the Christians that do believe that Yeshua ha mashiach is the messiah and is God and is also part of the trinity Godhead.

On one hand we have the Jews who are God's chosen people, to which were given the laws of God(The Torah תורה) and chosen to be God's representatives on earth, the Jews do not know such a thing as a trinity and a man that is also God, in fact they find this teaching to be offensive and blasphemous.
on the other hand there's the Christian faith which is based on Judaism but continues and expands it with the new testament, the Christians believe that God is a trinity and that the messiah is a God in human form that came on the earth and died for sins of the world as the final atonement for sin.

If we are to understand scripture we need to try and understand it in it's most simplistic form, no preconceived notions, no doctrines, read it as simple as children would, with true heart and prayer truth reveals itself in time.

Lets look first what we know about God and who he is from the old testament to understand better why the Jews consider the Christian faith as blasphemous;

  1. "there is no one like Yahweh our God." Exodus 8:10
  2. "Yahweh, He is God; there is no other besides Him." Deuteronomy 4:35
  3. "Yahweh, He is God in heaven above and on the earth below; there is no other." Deuteronomy 4:39
  4. "See now that I, I am He, And there is no god besides Me" Deuteronomy 32:39
  5. "Hear, O Israel! Yahweh is our God, Yahweh is one [echad]!" Deuteronomy 6:4
  6. "You are great, O Lord God; for there is none like You, and there is no God besides You" 2 Samuel
    7:22
  7. "For who is God, besides Yahweh? And who is a rock, besides our God?" 2 Samuel 22:32
  8. "Yahweh is God; there is no one else." 1 Kings 8:60
  9. "You are the God, You alone, of all the kingdoms of the earth." 2 Kings 19:15
  10. "O Lord, there is none like You, nor is there any God besides You" 1 Chronicles 17:20
  11. "You alone are Yahweh." Nehemiah 9:6
  12. "For who is God, but Yahweh? And who is a rock, except our God" Psalm 18:31
  13. "You alone, Lord, are God." Isaiah 37:20
  14. "Before Me there was no God formed, And there will be none after Me." Isaiah 43:10
  15. "'I am the first and I am the last, And there is no God besides Me." Isaiah 44:6
  16. "Is there any God besides Me, Or is there any other Rock? I know of none." Isaiah 44:8
  17. "I am Yahweh, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." Isaiah 45:5
  18. "Surely, God is with you, and there is none else, No other God." Isaiah 45:14
  19. "I am Yahweh, and there is none else." Isaiah 45:18
  20. "Is it not I, Yahweh? And there is no other God besides Me, A righteous God and a Savior; There is none except Me." Isaiah 45:21
  21. "I am God, and there is no other; I am God, and there is no one like Me" Isaiah 46:9
  22. "And Yahweh will be king over all the earth; in that day Yahweh will be the only one [echad], and His name the only one[echad]." Zechariah 14:9
  23. "since indeed God is one [hen]" Romans 3:30
  24. "to the only [monos] wise God, Amen." Romans 16:27
  25. "there is no God but one [hen]" 1 Corinthians 8:4
  26. "yet for us there is but one [hen] God, the Father, from whom are all things and we exist for Him; and one [hen] Lord, Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we exist through Him." 1 Corinthians 8:6
  27. "Now a mediator is not for one party only; whereas God is only one [hen]." Galatians 3:20
  28. "There is one [hen] body and one [hen] Spirit, one [hen] hope, one [hen] Lord, one [hen] faith, one [hen] baptism, one [hen] God and Father of all who is over all and through all and in all." Ephesians 4:4-6
  29. "Now to the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only [monos] God" 1 Timothy 1:17
  30. "which He will bring about at the proper time—He who is the blessed and only [monos] Sovereign, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone [monos] possesses immortality and dwells in unapproachable light, whom no man has seen or can see. To Him be honor and eternal dominion! Amen." 1 Timothy 6:16
  31. "For there is one [hen] God, and one mediator also between God and men, the man Christ Jesus," 1 Timothy 2:5
  32. "You believe that God is one [hen]. You do well; the demons also believe, and shudder." James 2:19
  33. "For certain persons deny our only [monos] Master and Lord, Jesus Christ." Jude 4
  34. "the only [monos] God our Savior, through Jesus Christ our Lord. Amen." Jude 25

So if we know that God is one what happened? why do Christians believe in something that is so far from what the old testament teaches?
this might be hard to handle but truth is that paganism was mixed with the early church by Constantine the Roman to gain control over the ever growing Christian population, so what we have today is the Roman catholic church reaches to all ends of the world, Protestantism is basically a continuation of the Roman catholic church, belief in a trinitarian God, eternal torment in hell etc...

Yeshua(Jesus) himself testified against a trinitarian God, in mark 12 we can see him talking and agreeing with a Hebrew scribe that..."And the scribe said unto him, Well, Master, thou hast said the truth: for there is one God; and there is none other but he:"Yeshua(Jesus) agrees with the scribe, God is a he and he is one not three in one, if God would be three in one God would have to be an it.


And it shall come to pass, when thy days be expired that thou must go [to be] with thy fathers, that I will raise up thy seed after thee, which shall be of thy sons; and I will establish his kingdom
I will establish his throne for ever. I will be his Father, and he shall be my Son(1 Chronicles. 17:11-13).This is a prophecy about the messiah given to King David, the son of God, notice that God tells David that this son man will become his son and will have a kingdom in the future which means this son is not even born yet and definitely does not have a kingdom! if the son of God was God's son ruling with the father in heaven he should have been ruling over everything already!

God told Moses that; “I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren and will put My words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command Him. And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him” (Deut. 18:18-19)
It is clear from this verse that God is going to appoint another powerful prophet just like Moses and who can it be if not the messiah? but look, God will put his words into his mouth and will command the prophet to speak the words God commands him to, this makes no sense if that prophet is God almighty himself, will God command God what to say and how to speak? instead God should have told Moses something in these lines; "in the last days I will come down and become a man, I shall make myself into a great prophet just like you and will speak the words of my own"
doesn't sound very good does it?

There are many verses that supposedly show that Yeshua is God and God is a trinity, those are misinterpretation and I will not cover them all here but just give an example for a few..

one of the most popular is John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God."
The word in Greek is "logos" this logos repeats itself 69 times in the new testament and is never referred to as being the messiah John 1:1 is no different, Logos which means "the saying" or "his testament" simply means that God's word or his saying is part of him and is God, just like the 10 commandments are part of God and are God but it does not mean that the 10 commandments have a will of their own and have their own distinct personality and will.
in the beginning was God's testament and the testament of God is part of God and is God.

The following verse(John 1:14) got every one convinced it is talking about Yeshua transforming into flesh
when in fact it means that every person who accepts the word and lives it has made God's word into flesh through themselves, the kingdom of God starts within.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.

The word became flesh simply means that the word of God became alive through the messiah, the father's spirit descended upon Yeshua and from then and on he officially became God's representative, Yeshua was God's reflection, he had God's testament and that what he was doing, giving testimony of God.
the word of God was not simply something that was written but lived and breathed through the life of the messiah Yeshua, this same word is in his followers as well, all those who have God's word and are living it are having the word made flesh in them, Just like Yeshua did.

another verse is when Yeshua is saying in John 8:58 
Then said the Jews unto him, Thou art not yet fifty years old, and hast thou seen Abraham? 58Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am"
Yeshua is not claiming to be God, the words I AM here in Greek is "ego mi" which is a different word than the Hebrew "I will be what I will be" that God told Moses through the angel at the burning bush.
If you look what Yeshua told them before this verse, in verse 54 he told them "
Jesus answered, If I honour myself, my honour is nothing: it is my Father that honoureth me; of whom ye say, that he is your God:"

Yeshua says that his own honor is nothing and that his honor is coming from the father that they claim is their God but not knowing him, in verse 56 he says"Your father Abraham rejoiced to see my day: and he sawit, and was glad."He explains that Abraham knew about the messiah's coming, every one knew about it since the garden of Eden, God's promise of a saviour was planned before the creation of the world and that is what Yeshua is referring here to, before Abraham was I was already him, the messiah, the promised deliverer.
on a side note this I AM (ego mi) was used by others throughout the new testament such as Paul and the Roman centaurian, surely they did not claim to be the I AM almighty God.



There are some common sense reason why Yeshua(Jesus) cannot be God.

- God cannot die, Yeshua died, if Yeshua was God than his death was not real, in fact this creates a paradox, we must ask the question when messiah died did his body go through decay? if it did than it disqualifies him as being fully God, but if the answer is no then he cannot be fully human because all flesh decays.
- God cannot be contained in anything not even in the universe itself how much less in a human form?
- God is omni present, if God broke away from the trinity and was completely man in the form of Yeshua than he seized to be complete.
- at no point no one ever saw God, but many saw Yeshua.
- God cannot be tempted but clearly Yeshua was temped by the devil in the desert. on another note why did the devil offered Yeshua all of the kingdoms of the earth? if Yeshua is God everything already belongs to him.
- Yeshua prays to God, would God pray to God?
- Yeshua knows not the day and hour of his return, not even until now when he is already on the right hand of God, how can he not know his own plans if he is God? because only the father is God.

and some verses to show that Yeshua is merely a man sent by God from scripture.

John 14:24
He that loveth me not keepeth not my sayings: and the word which ye hear is 
not minebut the Father's  which sent me.
JOHN 14:10   

Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.    
1 corinthians 8:4 There is only one God
"There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all."—1 Timothy 2:5, 6.
Hb 1:4 .  Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.

in this verse we are told that Yeshua is a created being that receives an inheritance and becomes greater than the angels. think about this for a moment, Yeshua was created, than he receives inheritance from who? from himself? if he is already God this would be silly to receive something that already belongs to you UNLESS Yeshua is a man receiving inheritance from the father and obtaining a greater name than the angels.

Revelation 1:The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which  God  gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified it by his angel unto his servant John: 
why does it say the revelation that God gave to Jesus christ? Isn't Yeshua already God? if Yeshua is God there is no need for him to receive a revelation from the gather.

Who bare record of the word of God, and of the testimony of Jesus Christ, and of all things that he saw. How can God have a testimony of something? the only explanation is that God the father gives him a revelation as a testimony to show unto his servants, just like the verse says and again it separates God and Jesus.
John to the seven churches which are in Asia: Grace be unto you, and peace, from  him which is, and which was, and which is to come; and from the seven Spirits which are before his throne;
And from Jesus Christ, who is the faithful witness, and the first begotten of the dead, and the prince of the kings of the earth. Unto him that loved us, and washed us from our sins in his own blood.. You see the separation between God who always was, the 7 churches and Jesus? He is called a witness, the first begotten of the dead and the prince of the kings of the earth, the lord of lords but NEVER God.
Whenever we have been taught about the divinity of christ is a mistranslated text and twisting of scripture to fit this doctrine, it was completely foreign to the early church and Jewish followers to worship a man.

I hope you find this article helpful, it is a heavy issue that takes lots of prayer and studying, I wish you well.




Sunday, July 21, 2013

pope francis forgives sins on twitter


Only God can forgive sins, the pope is not God but he is worshipped as one and considered to have the same authority on earth as Yeshua had when he ministired, the pope is proclaiming himself to be as God when forgiving sins of others.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/one-hell-of-a-deal-pope-francis-offers-reduced-time-in-purgatory-for-catholics-that-follow-him-on-twitter-8713666.html


Friday, July 12, 2013

Pope is an anti christ



Today Christians are taught to believe that the anti christ will suddenly appear from no where on the world stage just before the 7 year tribulation and sign a peace treaty with many that will set off the 7 year period, but in fact this could not be further from the truth, we have the man of perdition prophesied by Daniel the prophet in Daniel 9:27 sitting in the vatican and controlling world affairs from Rome.
Today all the main stream prophecy teachers such as Hal lindsey, Joel Rosenberg, Jack Van impe and many others teach about the secret rapture that will happen just before the mysterious anti christ appears on the world scene when in fact that every pope that ever served in the vatican was an anti christ. the papacy prosecuted true believers who wanted nothing with the Babylonian pagan religion of Rome, all they wanted was to serve God according to scripture, those believers who defied the vatican were murdered in the millions over the ages.
Most believers have no revelation at all regarding the identity of the true anti christ, the false prophecy teachers point to every direction except the vatican and the pope they NEVER speak of the vatican as the mystery Babylon the true place where the anti christ comes from, they never speak of who really the pope is and how much unimaginable power he has, how corrupted their system of faith and how demonic their rituals really are, they never mention that the Vatican has Jesuit universities all around the world where all the politicians, presidents and world leaders are trained and groomed to become future leaders, it is all planned, there are no elections, there are no votes, the Jesuit order controls everything. you can look it up yourself on wikipedia type in, Jesuit universities around the world or Jesuit university graduates, you will see there CEO's and major country presidents and leaders, this is the true conspiracy that the world knows nothing about.

The wars and conflicts will just get worse and worse because it has too, in order for the anti christ to bring a 7 year peace agreement he first needs to have controlled and rigged conflicts around the world and this is exactly whats happening, Syria and Egypt are in turmoil, so are other countries such as Turkey, Egypt's new president is of course Jesuit trained.

Some people think that Obama is the anti christ, Obama is just a puppet, always was, he is of course Jesuit trained just as Joe Biden the vice president, they are taking their order from the vatican ruled by the black pope which is the general and has complete authority over the world.
Understand that the new world order is already at work, the world government is in place and a network of control is ready to be used when the time is right, in an instant everything will be cut off and the world will crash, stock market will collapse following a world wide depression. the black pope has the power to make this happen any time he wants, the black pope is st francis the current pope, so he is both the pope and the vatican general. why do you think that all of the world leaders come to the pope? why they all kiss his hand? what is so special about the pope that Obama went many times before he even visited Israel? they are all under his authority and all leaders are subordened to the pope. just look at the following images;

 House Speaker Nancy Pelosi of Calif. greets Pope Benedict XVI, as President Bush and Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice look on. (AP Photo / April 16, 2008)





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Wednesday, July 10, 2013

Vatican worshiping the devil openly


Have no mistake the whore of Babylon wearing purple and scarlet spoken in the book of revelation is the catholic church and the final anti christ is here.
the Babylonian bortherhood of Saturnelia lives on and it has survived for many thousands of years moving from nation to nation from Egypt to Persia, Greece, Rome and now its in the vatican in Rome.
These are devil worshipers and it can be proven easily with a little research.
I have checked the words of the song he sang and its true, check them yourself in a translator.

lucifer matutinus inveniat ille inquam lucifer qui nescit occasum. christus filius tuus

these words does sing about lucifer and tells how Yeshua is his son, this is blasphemy against God and they are doing it in the open, but those with eyes to see and realize that we are at the final days this does not come as a surprise.
Right now the anti christ(pope) is restrained he is restraining himself because he cannot reveal his true identity yet as it is not the right time, if he does it right now he will be rejected, there are things that needs to come prior to the anti christ true identity to be revealed, this is what 2 Thessalonians 2:6-7 talks about.
some say that the restrainer in these verses is the holy spirit but that cannot be true because God is omnipresent and without the spirit present there will be no people saved during the tribulation which we are told that will happen.

Here's the verse: And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time. For lthe mystery of lawlessness mis already at work. Only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way.


Friday, July 5, 2013

Lamb sacrifice reinstated after 2000 years and two Men Sentenced for Attempt to Sacrifice Lamb on temple mount



As we get closer and closer to the building of the third Jewish temple the conflicts will increase on the temple mount between the Jews and the Muslims, the Jewish people are hungry for the messiah and for God but God had already come in the form of a man Yeshua from nazareth was his name and the final lamb was sacrificed, he took the sins of the world on his shoulders and said "it is finished"(John 19:30) meaning that Yeshua was the final sacrifice and no more needed after that.
Today  most unbelieving Jews are partially blind so they cannot see that Yeshua was already here two thousand years ago and fulfilled all of the prophecies regarding himself in his first coming. if you are a believer and you get to talk to a Jewish person, please share the truth of the gospel with them, tell them about the story of Yeshua, Isaiah 53 is a great starting point, the spirit is moving and opening the hearts of his people so they can see the truth, his elect are every one who have the mark of God those who are true believers and will not be deceived by the Beast and his one world religion, help spreading the truth now is the time!



The sacrificial altar has already been built for the 3d temple among all the other tools and utensils that are needed for a complete functioning temple, now the only thing is left is for the vatican to decide on the right time to give an approval of the building of the temple, is it going to be built on top of the al aqsa masque(dome of the rock) or next to it? still remains to be seen, one thing is for certain the temple will be built and daily sacrifices and offerings will resume and later will be stopped by the man of sin which will proclaim himself to be God in the temple of God. (Daniel 9:27, 2 thessalonians 2:3-4, Matthew 24:15)

Lamb sacrifice has already been reinstated after 2000 years.
this is the website where you can sign up and participate in the passover sacrifice if you are in Israel... http://www.korbanpesach.org/index.htm (click on english if you don't read Hebrew in the upper right corner)

(warning graphic images of animal sacrifice)





The article of the two men on temple mount
Two men have been sentenced to 50 hours of service after trying to perform the Passover sacrifice on the Temple Mount.
by Maayana Miskin
Two Jewish activists who attempted to sacrifice a lamb on the Temple Mount have been sentenced to 50 hours of community service.
In March 2010, the eve of the Passover holiday, activists Noam Federman and Yehuda Glick attempted to bring an animal onto the Temple Mount in order to perform the Biblically mandated Passover sacrifice. They were stopped by police.
The two were charged with unauthorized transportation of livestock.
They argued in court that the charge in question was intended to be used to fight theft of farm animals. They accused the state of political persecution, and of misuse of the law to prevent freedom of worship.
Judge Dana Cohen-Lekach agreed that Federman and Glick had not committed a crime, but said that unauthorized transport of livestock was indeed problematic. She suggested a compromise in which the two would give of their time to the Society for Prevention of Cruelty to Animals in Israel.
Federman and the attorney representing Glick replied that the men's initial action of attempting a Passover sacrifice had been a contribution of their time to the State of Israel, and that they would be happy to contribute their time again.
"With G-d’s help, next year the nation will ascend the Temple Mount, and I will bring a Passover sacrifice with me," Federman said. "I expect the Israel Police not to do as they did in previous years and prevent us from fulfilling the mitzvah [positive command]."
Attorney Yitzchak Bam, who represented Glick, said police should invest their time in fighting crime, not in chasing after people who seek to perform religious ceremonies. "Just as the Women of the Wall were given freedom of worship, my client, too, should have freedom of worship," he argued.
The charges against Federman and Glick did not discourage them from attempting to sacrifice a lamb this year as well.

Source

False prophets teachers and ungodly spirits are rising

We were warned that at the end of days there will arise false teachers and false prophets and false christs(messiahs) that will deceive many...

For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, they shall deceive the very elect. Behold, I have told you before. (Matthew 24:24-25)



Wednesday, July 3, 2013

Vatican and Jesuits Name New Telescope ‘Lucifer’



why would they call their new telescope Lucifer? because it is who they worship, the son of the morning star they worship Saturn(Satan), it is only fitting for these satanists to call their new telescope after their god. they know the stars has answers and power to predict the future this is the main reason why they have that telescope.

The University of Arizona, together with the Vatican and Jesuit Order, announced today it named its newest high-powered telescopic instrument ‘Lucifer’.
There has been a great deal of speculation, among Vatican critics, why in the first place the Jesuit Order was allowed to build a huge stellar observatory on Mt. Graham in Arizona – on holy Indian ground – in cooperation with the state-run University of Arizona.
With the naming of Lucifer, critics claim the Vatican has showed its true colors, using God and Jesus as shills for their true master — Lucifer.
According to an article in Popular Science by Rebecca Boyle the “new instrument with an evil-sounding name is helping scientists see how stars are born.”
The article went to explain the name Lucifer stands for (deep breath) “Large Binocular Telescope Near-infrared Utility with Camera and Integral Field Unit for Extragalactic Research.”
“And yes,” according to Popular Science, “it’s named for the Devil, whose name itself means “morning star.”
However, according to a spokesman for the University of Arizona,it wasn’t meant to evoke any connotations of evil.
Lucifer has three interchangeable cameras for imaging and spectroscopy in different resolutions. It has a large field of view and high-res capabilities, which allow a wide range of observations.
Critics are now shaking their heads even more, wondering why the Vatican would have its own stellar observatory and why they would have the audacity to name a new telescope after the Devil himself.
According to Mitch Battros some people believe “it is for the purpose to monitor a warning presented in the Bible.
Could it be it is named “Wormwood” coming from the New Testament book of Revelation, saying:
“And the third angel sounded, and there fell a great star from heaven, burning as it were a lamp, and it fell upon the third part of the rivers, and upon the fountains of waters; And the name of the star is called Wormwood: and the third part of the waters became wormwood; and many men died of the waters, because they were made bitter.” (Revelation 8:10, 11 – King James Bible).
Battros added this reference to the end times as well as Mayan prophecy:
“Is it possible the Vatican has the same information as the Mayans? Both speak of an event coming from the center of our galaxy Milky Way. Both indicate a powerful celestial event. But the most important question of all is “when”.
“I do not believe any scientist or focused individual can argue that all of space science and cosmology appears to have a certain urgency for discovery. From galactic ‘charged particles’ to new found asteroids, there is a sense of ‘let’s find it as soon as we can’.”
Here is an article that appeared in the Native American Roots web site, explaining how the Vatican violated Native American holy ground:
For many Native American nations there are certain geographic places which have special spiritual meanings. These sacred places are often portals to the spirit worlds. For the Apache in Arizona, one of these sacred places is Mount Graham: this place is called Dzil Nchaa Si An (Big Seated Mountain) and is mentioned in 32 of the sacred songs which have been handed down through the oral tradition for many generations. It is here that the Ga’an, the guardian spirits of the Apache, live.
In 1873, Mount Graham was removed from the boundaries of the San Carlos Reservation and placed in public domain. The spiritual value of Mount Graham to the Apache was not considered. This action set the stage for conflict a century later.
Ojibwa :: Mount Graham: Science and Apache Religion
In 1984, the University of Arizona and the Vatican selected Mount Graham as a site for a complex of 18 telescopes. The fact that this is a sacred place for the Apache was not taken into consideration. To get around the legal barriers of the American Indian Religious Freedoms Act, the University hired a lobbying firm to put pressure on Congress to remove this, and other, roadblocks. The area in question is administered by the U.S. Forest Service.
The Vatican has an observatory staff which is officially support by the Vatican City State. The Vatican Observatory Foundation is supported by private donations. One of the important duties of the church is to maintain an accurate calendar and this requires astronomical observations. Hence the involvement of the Vatican with astronomy. The first Vatican observatory was established in 1774.
Congress passed the Arizona-Idaho Conservation Act in 1988. In response to lobbying by the University of Arizona and the Vatican, the Act included a provision to allow the construction of three telescopes on Mount Graham without having to comply with the American Indian Religious Freedoms Act or with environmental laws.
The following year the Apache Survival Coalition was started by Ola Cassadore-Davis, the daughter of Apache spiritual leader Phillip Cassadore. The purpose of the Coalition was to save Dzil Nchaa Si An from desecration by a telescope complex to be built by the University of Arizona and the Vatican.
In 1991, the San Carlos Apache Tribe passed a resolution stating that Mount Graham is sacred to them. Furthermore, the resolution stated that the tribe supported the efforts of the Apache Survival Coalition to protect the religious and cultural beliefs of the tribe.
Following the declarations of the sacredness of Mount Graham by the Apache Survival Coalition and the San Carlos Apache Tribe, the Vatican in 1991declared that Mt. Graham was not sacred because it lacked religious shrines. Jesuit Father George Coyne, director of the Vatican Observatory, indicated that he could not find an authentic Apache who thought the mountain was sacred. Father Coyne stated that to convince him that the mountain was sacred he would need to see evidence of shrines and that he would not accept Apache oral history or statements by Apache-speaking Euro-American anthropologists.
Father Coyne further declared that Apache beliefs were “a kind of religiosity to which I cannot subscribe and which must be suppressed with all the force we can muster.”
The Arizona Republic (Phoenix, Arizona) reports that the Jesuit Father Charles W. Polzer calls opposition to the construction of the telescope complex on top of Mount Graham “part of a Jewish conspiracy” and comes from the Jewish lawyers of the American Civil Liberties Union who are out to undermine and destroy the Catholic Church.
In spite of opposition by the San Carlos Apache tribal council, Apache spiritual leaders, and environmental groups, actual construction of the project began in 1991.
With flagrant insensitivity to American Indians, the University of Arizona announced that it intended to name its new telescope on Mount Graham the Columbus telescope in honor of the European explorer. The University was apparently unaware that Columbus is not considered to be a hero by American Indian people. Ultimately, the University withdrew the name following public response against it.
The San Carlos Apache tribal council in 1993 reaffirmed resolutions opposing the construction of the telescope on Mount Graham. The council resolution stated that the telescope “constitutes a display of profound disrespect for a cherished feature of our original homeland as well as a serious violation of our traditional religious beliefs.”
After meeting with Apache elders and spiritual leaders at the San Carlos Apache Reservation, the National Council of Churches in 1995 passed a resolution calling for the removal of a telescope from Mount Graham.
The President’s Advisory Council on Historic Preservation in 1996 declared the entire Mount Graham observatory project to be in violation of the National Historic Preservation Act because of the project’s harm to Apache culture and spiritual life, but the telescope was not removed.
In 1997, the spokesman for the Apaches for Cultural Preservation was arrested for praying on Mount Graham. The Apaches for Cultural Preservation feel that the Forest Service, the University of Arizona, and the Vatican developed the project on Mount Graham knowing that it would violate Apache religious beliefs.
President Bill Clinton, using the line item veto, deleted $10 million in federal funds for the operation of the University of Arizona’s Mount Graham telescope project. San Carlos Apache Chairman Raymond Stanley and the White Mountain Apache Cultural Resources Director Ramon Riley sent letters to the President thanking him for the veto.
Beginning in 1998, the University of Arizona began requiring Indians to obtain prayer permits before they crossed the top of Mount Graham near the University’s telescopes. The University’s prayer policy required that the permit be requested at least two business days before the visit and that it include a description of where on the mountain the prayers will take place. Only people who were enrolled members of federally recognized tribes were allowed to pray.
In 1999, the University of Notre Dame, a Catholic university, announced that it would also build a telescope on Mount Graham. The University president claimed that he was unaware that Mount Graham was sacred to the Apache and that the Apache opposed the desecration of this sacred place. This was in spite of the fact that the building of telescopes on this sacred mountain by the University of Arizona and the Vatican was a controversial issue and had been the subject of many news stories.
In 1999, the White Mountain Apache tribal council passed a resolution urging the U.S. Forest Service to “honor its duties to protect the physical integrity of Mount Graham and its long-standing and ongoing historical, cultural and religious importance to many Apaches.”
Realizing that they were making little headway with the bureaucracies of the American government (Department of the Interior and Department of Agriculture) and Congress, the Apaches took their cause to the United Nations in 1999. Ola Cassadore Davis testified before the Sub-Commission on Prevention of Discrimination and Protection of Minorities. She stated:
We Apache wish to bring to the people of this world a better understanding of Indian people, in order that we are able to preserve and freely live by our traditional culture and religious beliefs.
Source http://www.envirolink.org/
She asked that the special use permit by the Department of Agriculture Forest Service be terminated. She concluded:
In conclusion, we Apache would respectfully urge this body of the United Nations to recognize and acknowledge that the disrespect and suffering caused by the nations and governments mentioned above be terminated forthwith. We Apache petition you for a resolution consistent with the National Congress of American Indians of 1993, 1995 and July 1999. They stated that the public interest in protecting Apache culture is compelling, and that the U.S. Secretary of Agriculture should accordingly require the prompt removal of the telescopes from Mount Graham.
In 2004, the San Carlos Apache rejected an offer of $120,000 from the University of Arizona, calling it a bribe. Saying that the University had done nothing but tell lies to the Apache people, the San Carlos Apache indicated that they would continue to honor their sacred mountain. One tribal council member indicated that if the University did not have a telescope on Mount Graham they would have no interest in the Apache people.
The conflict over this sacred site is still not resolved. On the one hand it can be viewed as a conflict between two different cultures. On the other hand, it can also be seen as a conflict between science and religion.
The Mount Graham International Observatory is home to three telescopes: the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope, the Heinrich Hertz Submillimeter Telescope, and the Large Binocular Telescope. On their website, their version of the history of Mount Graham focuses on James Duncan Graham and mentions the Spanish Conquistadores. There is no mention of the Apache. Their section on the legal actions necessary for the building of the complex mentions environmental concerns, but there is no mention of the Apache spiritual concerns.

The telescopes sit on land which has been leased from the Forest Service and the lease must be regularly renewed. Efforts by American Indian people and various environmental groups have so far been unsuccessful in convincing the Forest Service to deny the renewal of the leases.
Source: http://www.nativeamericannetroots.net/diary/471/mount-graham-science-and-apache-religion

Vatican priests wear the Babylonian Dagon fish hat for all to see







The catholic priests wear the pointy fish hat of Dagon which is also known as Nimrod grand son of Noah the ancient Babylonian god who defied God and served Lucifer, those in the Vatican wear these hats and perform the Babylonian rituals for all the world to see, but only those with eyes to see will really realize and understand.

trully amazing revelation in this video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5lFmDNveSoM

Wednesday, June 19, 2013

Saving seeds will save your life.

listen to this great podcast to learn all about why and how to save seeds. God has given us the gift of life and the abundance of nature's produce for us to enjoy, food should be free and it's supposed to be, but today corporations are trying to take away the right from people to save their own seeds and grow their own food, take matters in your own hands! buy seeds while you can, growing your own food is like growing your own money in your back yard, it should be elligal, I won't be surprised if it will be one day...

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There is Magic Within Seeds but Saving Them Isn't Mystical
There is Magic Within Seeds but Saving Them Isn’t Mystical
I was talking with Ben Falk of Whole Systems Design yesterday about how more and more small seed companies are now buying at least some seed from companies associated with the ilk of Monsanto.
Ben was pretty shocked to hear the Johnny’s Selected Seeds is buying some of their seeds from Semanis, which is owned by Monsanto.
There is a lot of fear about GMO contamination both legitimate and ridiculous specifically when the word Monsanto comes up.
The best solution is to save your own seeds but we are going to also discuss how to know who you can trust when buying seeds and times where you simply do not have to worry about GMO at all.
Join me today to hear about…
  • What is “the safe seed pledge” and why should you care
  • Why we need to be saving seeds in the first place
  • Breeding improvements vs. hybrids vs. GMO (all three are different)
  • Exchanging seeds – a great form of barter
  • The easy plants to save seed from – beans, lettuce, peppers, tomatoes
  • Separation rules – why they exist and not stressing them
  • Staggering pollination times to create effective separation
  • Herbs and unusual plants are often easy to save for and over looked
  • Storing your seeds once they are harvested (is cold storage a good idea)
  • How to clean your seeds, what you need, what you don’t need
  • Growing your own hybrids – hybrids are not always bad
  • How to hand pollinate and ensure purity with squashes and melons, etc
  • Saving root crops like garlic, potatoes, sweet potatoes for replanting
  • The rewards of regionally adapted plants
  • Breeding for any and all traits, it really isn’t hard

Tuesday, June 18, 2013

The harsh reality of not being prepared


I came upon a good article recently that  is very relevant to the events to come, and at some point this article hit the nail exactly when it wrote "after awhile people will be willing to sell their soul for a scrap of food" the bible warns us about this that when the world government will rise the anti christ will control who will be able to buy or sell or in other words he will decide who will eat, you want to eat? sell your soul to the devil and worship his image by accepting the mark.

This is a great article to hint on what horrors await for those who are not prepared, remember though that in the tribulations that are coming ahead it is most importantly to be spiritually prepared, pray constantly, ask God for guidance and then prepare physically by storing away supplies, seeds, sanitary items and any thing else that might help to keep you alive. angels may come and protect us during the time of troubles but what if not? better be safe than sorry I always say.



I have become personally so disenchanted with the way people fail to prep.  People still don’t understand how important it is to put away.  I have gotten into arguments over this and had cretins call me a fool because I put away food, water, and supplies.  I thought about this and the frustration that other preppers have with this laid back idiotic attitude that there is no need for preparation.  There are good people that just can’t/won’t start preparing. They have the money to do so, but just don’t want to.  Many have only seen what happens to non-preppers on TV, but it still doesn’t make an impact.
In this article I detail some hard core realities to show just how awful it will be for those that don’t prep. Every one of these scenarios is something that has occurred to the non-prepper throughout history.  While strong images come to mind, the purpose is to jar some people out of their inaction and into action before it is too late.
Preppers are good people and care much about those around them, and unless something does jar those around them that choose not to prep, their own survival chances could be reduced.  For every bit of food, water, ammunition, or supplies you sacrifice to the non-prepper, the fewer irreplaceable supplies are left for you and your family in a crisis situation.  It is hoped that the following can help certain people put into TRUE perspective just how horrific it will be for those that don’t prepare.
Here are the awful consequences for those refusing to prep.
As the world continues to decay at multiple facets, the common person has and continues to be lulled into a sense that everything is improving and will continue to for the distant future.  After all, to them unemployment has peaked out and will drop until everyone that wants to work will easily be able to find good paying work,  North Korea is no threat because all their long range “bottle rockets” fizz out,  sanctions will eventually make Iran give up their nuclear program, oil prices will start going down after June or so,  Europe will bail out Greece and Spain and everyone else,  and U.S. debt will eventually come under control.
After 2012 everyone that has prepared themselves will go back to more “sensible” lives.  “Good times are coming”, baseball season is here, let’s get back to watching some more crackerjack news.
It is amazing how people become good conversationalists with most others discussing all the gossip related news, while becoming mentally tranquilized into a totally deceptive state of denial of truly dangerous issues of the times.  It’s the blind leading the blind… right off the cliff.
Rather than dealing with harsh reality, people surround themsleves with easy to digest material that can be talked about without directly influencing anyone’s lives.  Meaningless chatter.  Even for those unwilling to even think to prepare for a societal catastrophic event, there is also no desire to even face the extreme possibility of a sudden loss of one’s employment.  A personal SHTF.
Look at some of the terrible personal pain experienced in America right now – and it hasn’t even hit the fan on a grand scale. Those people who have lived it up on credit, who failed to put much of anything away for a rainy day, who’ve lost their job, and who eventually lost their unemployment benefits are experiencing the first level of collapse. This is happening to millions of people in our own country, all around us, as we speak.
These Americans, who once enjoyed the luxuries that modern living had to offer, are now at their wits end, with very little hope for a return to their previous lives. They are no longer able to pay most or any of their bills. Many have to humiliatingly turn to others for help to pay for food, or worse, to obtain old, unhealthy and poor tasting food from locally funded food banks. Their credit cards are totally worthless. Many have been evicted from their homes and have uprooted their families to live either on the street, in tent cities, with relatives, or have been forced to live at homeless shelters, They’ve have had their vehicles repossessed, or simply can’t afford the gasoline anymore. Their living conditions often make it difficult, if not impossible, to look presentable for job interviews. For many, the life of stability they knew just a short while ago is gone, replaced with fear and a constant stress to the point of nervous breakdown.
A personal economic meltdown is confined to the individual or family, or at worst a few families.  The human civilization remains intact and so do society’s safety nets.
With food assistance, rental assistance, homesless shelters, and family to turn to, even the most destitute are almost always able to find some sort of help – however menial.
It is no wonder with these known assistance programs, then, that people have forgotten or never thought to consider what happens IF and WHEN human civilization goes through a strong enough SHTF event.  If that happens on a mass scale what happens to everyone that needs help that has not prepared ahead of time?  What happens when governments are in such total disarray or destroyed altogether that they can’t help even if they wanted to?
The media and others have portrayed the good people that sacrifice much if not all “luxuries” of life to prepare themselves and their family and friends for extreme times, as chicken littles.  Those who have made the choice to store up emergency food, water, and other necessities to avoid extreme life threatening risks, including suffering horribly during and after a widespread SHTF event, are laughed at and ridiculed often for “wasting” their lives on delusional paranoia.
But who is delusional? Those who see the signs around them and understand how vulnerable the system is, or those who believe that things never change, that politicians have their best interests at heart, and that if the worst happens the government will be there to provide everything they may need?
How many have considered the dire consequences of their failure to prepare in the event that the infrastructure and everything a country’s people depend on totally collapses?
The misery from long term unemployment and lack of money is like a walk in the park compared to the severe anguish and dangerous conditions that await those who have failed to prepare for the aftermath of a large scale cataclysm.  The “minor” problems of unemployment that seem extremely major and painful to most today should serve as a wake up call to what life will be like when something much, much worse happens – when those proverbial safety nets are no longer there to catch us.
Many preppers have become deeply frustrated at those around them, especially those that truly mean something to them, because they simply refuse to put away anything at all for emergencies.  The prepper is usually a person that cares a lot and it is often difficult for them to take a tough stance towards the people that they care about.  However, unless someone changes the habits of those people that fail to get ready, decisions will need to be made, and they won’t be easy.
The choice of what the prepared prepper should do will boil down to either either adding these people to their own circle or survival group and reduce the group’s safety, supplies and self sufficiency, OR, they will have to let the non-prepper fend for themselves.  This is a very personal choice, and each of us will need to decide based on our own morals, ethics and personal relationships.
As a last ditch effort, discussing the following scenarios with the non-prepper may help them understand what life will be like without what has sustained them so comfortably for so long.
This is the hard reality the non prepper needs to understand:
  • Without power the water company cannot get water to their faucets. Without water dehydration occurs within 24 hours. Dehydration causes much suffering before death.
  • Toilets in homes, unless they have an incineration toilet that still need power to work, don’t flush without water.  Where will they go to the bathroom and then where will they dispose of human waste?
  •  There will be no clean water available anywhere, especially in major cities, and they cannot live more than about three days without it.
  • Drinking dirty and polluted water will make them incredibly sick and accelerate the dehydration process.
  • Polluted water must be purified and that means having a good filter, bleach or other disinfectant, or fuel and something to boil water with.
  • Understand just how fragile the power and the infrastructure is that pumps water to the public. A breakdown in our power infrastructure or a cyber attack against utility systems will render them useless.
  • A single event can rapidly lead to a cascade of other events that would certainly collapse almost, if not, everything. This is why major snow storms, hurricanes or solar events in the past have affected millions of people in an entire region all at once.
  • A single, seemingly unimportant event may become quite terrible as its repercussions spread; this can include a far and away disaster.
  • Understand that the economies of the world are so interwoven that when one major economy falls it affects everyone.
  • Not having any food in the house means that if the stores are emptied suddenly in a bad enough situation that there will be no food available for a long period of time afterward. Recent history during disasters around the world has shown that stores can literally be emptied in minutes.
  • Think about how totally horrible the feeling of being very hungry is and what circumstances would cause one to be desperate enough to eat anything.
  • ALL stores can be closed instantly under martial law.
  • Understand that you may not be able to purchase anything after it starts, especially with any credit cards.
  • Understand the complexity of food and water distribution; breaks in these chains can stop anything from getting to the people.
  • What life will be like if no toilet paper is stored?
  • Understand that without light sources, the night will be pitch black, often with zero visibility.
  • There will be no communications, other than probably martial law type of instructions over the radio, that is if they have batteries for the radio.
  • Other than ham and shortwave radio, any information that is available will be sent out by the government as filtered propaganda that “they” want everyone to hear.
  • Without power consider what it will be like to not have any heat to stay warm, or air conditioned air to stay cooler – with no way of alleviating the situation.
  • Travelling will likely be by foot or bicycle, as their will be no fuel and roadways may be blocked.
  • Realize that ANY travel outside of the home or neighborhood will be extremely dangerous as ANYONE who moves becomes a target
  • Non preppers will be pushed way beyond their limit because of lack of supplies.
  • The non prepper must realize their government does not really care about them individually, that they are a mere number and help will likely not come from them.
  • They have to figure out somewhere to get food. This can mean wild plants which they must know how to identify as safe, or risk poisoning themselves.
  • They have to understand that when we refer to “having no food” it doesn’t mean not having the food they are used to enjoying, it means no food to eat at all.
  • They have to understand that if they are fortunate enough to have any running water, they will probably have to bathe in cold water for lack of stored fuel to heat water.
  •  They have to realize that the very strange and totally unexpected is going to be all around them, made that much worse because of lack of any reliable self defense stores or skills.
  • They might have to remain on the run constantly because of looking for water and food.
  • They must understand that bad will be magnified magnitudes to living misery because of lack of food, water, and other necessary items that they took for granted for so long.
Okay, now comes the “truly ugly and unthinkable” life that most, if not all, people that have failed and refused to prepare themselves will deal with.  Clear vivid visualization is key here for anyone that ho hums the idea of prepping.
What horrors they will likely face after a cave-in of their nation’s economy, war, geophysical upheaval, or whatever crisis is bad enough to disturb or stop their nation from working and functioning?  There are plenty of very potential SHTF events that are simply awaiting a catalyst to trigger them.
  •  The Non-Prepper (NP) has to realize right off the bat that 911 and other emergency calls in will be met with silence or some recording telling the caller not to panic.
  • The (NP) that has no reliable self defense that can stop an attacker, will not get help from public services, and will become a victim of rape, assault, torture, or murder.
  • The (NP) that has no reliable self defense and will not only be at the mercy of criminal elements, but also have to contend with many desperate animals, some with rabies.
  • The (NP) that has no food will either have to find food or be ready to beg for food or worse, like sacrificing their bodies or other horrible acts or things to get a bite of food.
  • The (NP) will have to go through the worst, most rancid conditions of garbage to just maybe find what they should have stored up.
  • The (NP) will go through panic and near if not total psychosis looking for any water source right before their bodies begin shutting down during advanced stages of dehydration.
  • The (NP) will go through unbearable trauma when their children and other people around them are crying, screaming, and suffering with intense hunger pains in their stomachs.
  •  The (NP) will have to deal with the awful stench of rotting wastes from many sources because they have not taken the effort to even store up waste disposal plastic bags.
  • The (NP) will have disease and pathogens everywhere, not only because they have no trash disposal means, but because they haven’t prepared how to deal with trash and waste.
  • The (NP) will have to live in very primitive conditions after things around them deteriorate rapidly, because they have neglected putting away anything to make life more bearable.
  • The (NP) and those around them will likely develop all sorts of infective skin rashes from the lack of insight of storing up toilet paper.  Imagine the smell for a moment.
  • The (NP) will have to handle biting insects and other vermin that will collect amoungst the filth that will pile up.  No pest control stored up along with no other supplies.
  • The (NP) will have no way of treating sickness certain to follow a SHTF event, no first aid and likely no training or knowledge about how to treat the ill on top of this.
  • The (NP) will have sick and dying people around them because of not being able to treat minor injuries.  Didn’t even stock up on disinfectives.  Unsanitary conditions lead to infection.
  • The (NP) and others around them will experience much grief as they watch helplessly as their family members literally die of starvation right in front of their eyes.
  • The (NP) won’t believe how desperate hunger drives them and those that mean everything to them to “trying” to eat food that taste so bad it gags them and comes back up.
  • The (NP) will likely have family and friends around them that have also not prepared committing suicide because they can’t take it any longer.
  • The (NP) will witness some of those people around them lose any sense of civilized humanity in them and behave like wild animals after some time from lack of necessities.
  • The (NP) and family members, maybe friends also, will at some point end up barbecuing or eating raw the family dog, cat, bird, any pet dear to everyone for food.
  • The (NP) will likely get into physical fights with other family members over any scrap of food available as rational thoughts are lost to wanton hunger.
  • The (NP) as many other (NP’s) will eventually go out of any safety of their home looking for food and or water, become disorientated and lost, and die a hard death somewhere.
  • The (NP) that is “lucky” enough to find some government help will likely have to almost sell their soul, probably all their freedom, to get tiny rations – just enough to keep them alive.
  • The (NP) will see widespread violence and barbarism that will shock them to the core and will wish that they had purchased some form of firearm and stocked up on ammunition.
  • The (NP) better get used to attempting to explain the children and other adults why they wasted all that money on junk, and didn’t buy any emergency food and other supplies.
  • The (NP), no matter how positive they are will drop quickly into depression and lose willpower as having nothing to hold on to does this, along with lack of any nutrition.
  • The (NP) will feel the worst guilt imaginable as they hear their family moaning in anguish from lack of anything to eat, knowing they could have done something to prepare.
  • The (NP) will most likely not see the rebuilding and recovery after A SHTF event. They will, like almost all NP’s, be statistics.  Some will die hours or a day before help arrives.
  • The (NP) from lack of food, drinking bad water, no light at night, the horrid smells, no good self defense, the overall horror, will often be paralyzed with fear and despair, blank stare.
  • The (NP) is totally helpless after SHTF, will have to rely totally on charity of those prepared to live.  They will take all sorts of desperate measures likely to get them shot.  They’ll attempt to eat hazardous foods like an animal trapped in a house will do, and get sick and suffer much before dying.  The (NP) will likely die (ugly and hard) as they lived, unprepared for anything.
If we were to use one single word to describe the torments that someone who “chooses” not to prepare will go through after a true you know what hits the fan it would be “PREVENTABLE”.
Almost every single person, even a very poor person, has the capacity to put away emergency food and supplies.  Even homeless people have stashes of something just in case things become so bad that the normal hand outs and thrown-away items dry up.  Many people with good sources of income don’t even have an extra can of food or any water put away at all. This is stupidity beyond words.
Every day lightweight disasters happen in all parts of the world that disturb services enough that people are confined to their homes for a certain amount of time.  While recovery is short, people are still uncomfortable during these times.  Look what happens after a power outage at night and you will be mystified at how many homes are completely dark for hours.  People have not even bought an extra couple of candles or any battery operated light sources.  Even in well-to-do neighborhoods you may hear only a lone generator going after a blackout.  This lack of preparedness is truly frightening and plays itself out again, again, and again every time services are disrupted for minor to major reasons.  It’s as if there is something wrong with storing extra food, water, and supplies.
Even after “lessons” played out to what happens to those non-prepared, most people still feel that it just cannot happen to them, or won’t ever happen to them again.  It should be proof enough to people what happens to those unprepared after disasters simply by looking at those that have gone through it firsthand.  The difference, though, comes in that these disasters have had recovery periods and help from others. Even Haiti received some help and conditions remain putrid over there.
After a TRUE SHTF, it is presumable that government help and others coming to the aid of those in need WON’T happen for long periods of time. During that time those that have chosen to not put food, water, and necessities away are going to be in life threatening positions.  Most people just don’t get that when the supermarket shelves are empty they will stay that way for an extended period.  When the utilities go down, especially water, it may be weeks, months, or longer before they come back, if ever.  Without what someone needs to survive each day, it is not going to magically appear, and depending on the goodwill of others to feed them and sacrifice their own family’s survival chances is a terrible choice.
People MUST know what life will be like after SHTF in mega fashion if they refuse to prepare.  This is NOT new. Terrible events have plunged people into the deepest levels of desperation and hopelessness, and they will happen again and again.
While the above consequences to the non-prepper are extremely abysmal for anyone to read, the simple fact of the matter is they have already happened time and time again to those that have nothing put away.  People have resorted to cannibalism and gone to levels of primitive savage behavior out of shear desperation and out of literally losing their minds to the physical depletion of food and water that keeps the physical body operating.  Sometimes showing the extreme severity and results of a person’s lack of action, such as failure of the simple act of putting away extra food, water, and supplies, can be the kick in the complacency that they need.
It’s really easy to put away food and supplies. All one has to do is add a little bit of extra food to the grocery cart for long-term storage. Over time this adds up to a well stocked pantry of supplies.
There is something that is in a can of food that everyone can eat and enjoy the taste of, so talk to family members about their nutritional preferences and start stocking up.  Toilet paper and other supplies that really don’t have any expiration date can be put away and forgotten about ’til needed.
There MUST be common sense and intelligence to see what happens IF they don’t stock up for the future.  There has to be the DESIRE to get started, and this is the real problem with so many.
Once started, however, prepping becomes a type of life saving routine or positive lifestyle habit.   It is easy and can and will save one from misery. It may save their life and the lives of their family from ruin when SHTF, which is almost inevitably going to happen someday.  Every month and year that goes by without a true SHTF event, makes it more likely that it will happen.  Basic statistical chance shows this to be the case, but people continue the same pattern of behavior that has led them to the same devastation countless time before.
For those preppers that have people around them that refuse to prepare, you can at least have some degree of solace knowing that you tried to show the non-prepping person(s) what not having anything will mean to them and their families.
All we can do is try. Once we’ve given it our best shot, all we can do is let those who have been warned about the direness of the possibilities live their lives the way that want to. They will, unfortunately, live in a world of regret and suffering if the nation and the world falls apart around them.
To every action there is an opposite equal reaction. Preppers will see their efforts have been more than worth it.  Objects that are motionless tend to remain motionless and non-preppers will find there are horrific consequences for their lack of effort and motion to put away “life insurance” preps for themselves and their families.